There are people in this thread that are talking about two different meanings of abstract art.  One is the Abstract Art movement its rather complicated so I'll let wikipedia explain it.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_art  Drawings that fits into the Abstract Art movement definitely fit into the abstract category on RMD but it isn't all that should be in the category.

The abstract art that belongs in the RMD category is any art form that doesn't try to be completely realistic.  So any drawing that takes an intentional step away from reality fits into the category.  Drawings in the cartoons, fantasy, and both manga categories all technically fit into the abstract category  as well according to this definition.

I know that wasn't completely clear so here are some examples.

This is not Abstract art (as in the art movement), but it is abstract.


This is Abstract as in the movement.

tabris wrote:

There are people in this thread that are talking about two different meanings of abstract art.  One is the Abstract Art movement its rather complicated so I'll let wikipedia explain it.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_art  Drawings that fits into the Abstract Art movement definitely fit into the abstract category on RMD but it isn't all that should be in the category.

The abstract art that belongs in the RMD category is any art form that doesn't try to be completely realistic.  So any drawing that takes an intentional step away from reality fits into the category.  Drawings in the cartoons, fantasy, and both manga categories all technically fit into the abstract category  as well according to this definition.

I know that wasn't completely clear so here are some examples.

This is not Abstract art (as in the art movement), but it is abstract.


This is Abstract as in the movement.

oh.. okay, cool.

The AllStar wrote:

Sub-Urban Artist wrote:

Woah woah woah, chillax, Allstar and fans. No need to get butthurt over it. That's just the definition. As subjective as art is, there IS a science to it, too. And when you get to college, you have to learn it. Trust me, I'm not a fan of that, I just wanna do my projects and have fun with it, but it's a necessity for a degree. Figured I'd share what I learned with you...


Vector Art and non-objective can fit into the abstract catagory, but that's because it's RMD. I'm talking about in the art community, where there's more than a handful of catagories, abstract is separated into different forms. And what makes you think something with a subject can't also express or convey emotion? You're being too serious about all this...

I understand your point of view now, so thanks. Also, I was mistakin by saying art with subjects can not strike emotion, because they certainly can and do. I guess I am serious about this kinda stuff, it's my passion and it just ticks me off when someone believes a certain art form shouldn't be considered 'art' because they think it's easy and simple to create.

yeah same, it's very annoying if you put lots of work into your art and people say stuff like that.

Easy way to tell if you like abstract art or not (if you're musical like me):

If you can think up a song in your head or think of one that you've heard before that goes along with the art piece well, or if you can relate to the art piece and understand symbols and ideas, and really think about it, it's pretty good.

If it's something you can't really think about, then it's not that great.

Really, if you have an open mind, you'll like more art because you can appreciate the hidden details.

Fallen_Star wrote:

Most “Abstract” art requires no talent at all. You don’t even need an idea for your painting.

You know....Sometimes it feels sooooooo goooood when a brush slides through surface of paper that you stop caring  what are you doing....

All thoughts or ideas stop existing...

\m/

Sarru wrote:

Monsoon_Girl wrote:

Sarru wrote:

I don't get it

I'm your new female 10-year-old father

....You do realize I was hinting that my dad was an "abstract" right? AKA...I was insulting him >3>;;

ooo!
(lolspeak)
ur daddeh and my mommeh wud make a perfect cuple!
can you take my mom to be sold too? plzzz!??!?!?!?

Uhuh.

Therefore this whole thread is totally unnecessary.

If somebody draws (as you say ... "bad") abstracts, but they really truly enjoy it and try their best, I don't see anything wrong with it. If someone draws (as you say... "Good") abstracts-- well, the same goes as before. There's nothing wrong with this style of art. Now, I know you're just stating an opinion, (as am I...) but in the end, we have no right to judge an art form if it is enjoyed by even just one person.
Manga has been under fire recently, as well. I think the answer to all this "art form criticism" ..is that if we all respect that different people like different art forms and enjoy drawing them or even viewing them, then there would be no problems. Maybe you don't particularly like abstracts and think they are easy, the fact of the matter is- any art form could be drawn easily or hard. I'm sure I could find skillful or effortless looking ("good" or "bad" in your opinion) drawings for every art form. But I have no right to criticize what other people enjoy to draw.

Hehe.. my rant is over. ^^; Just an opinion, don't take it personal please. I don't want any enemies on RMD.

Anyways, I hope you saw my perspective and thank you for reading.
~furu

Last edited by furubaluver101 (03 Nov, 2009 2:43 pm)

Abstract? Pfffffft, more like, TROLLstract, amirite?

Come on guys, some people aren't gunna like your art. Some are. You can only make your opinion go so far until it becomes a joke, and you start to repeat yourself. Draw what you want to draw, for you, and not for them.

Abstract is fine. People like it. I like it. Others don't. End.

I really think that a lot of people think that abstract art is an easy way out of wtv but really ?.. drawn with passion and efforts ?
I dont think so...
and also, I kinda have a thing for vector art but when they call it vector art when there only is a bunch of arrows and rainbow with silouettes and circles and paint splatters, that only copying art works and having no, or not a lot of originality.
BUT again this only applies in some cases.