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#1 01 May, 2008 10:44 pm

Will this ever change?

I do a lot of fine detail and the small is NOTsmall enough.. Is there anyway there will be a finer tool? Thank you.


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#2 02 May, 2008 12:41 am

Re: Will this ever change?

The finest line is 1pixel which is the finest we can get. One thing to keep in mind is that when you have the drawing tool in full screen or zoomed mode you are viewing lines thicker than they are when the final drawing is viewed so what is 1pixel in the final size might look like 2 pixels wide when you're drawing.


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#3 02 May, 2008 1:34 am

Re: Will this ever change?

If the smallest unit is one pixel and that's the size of the thinnest line, the distance between 2 lines should never be smaller than the width of a line (1 pixel).
However when I draw thin lines next to each other in zoomed mode (no matter if full screen or not), the distance between them can become a lot smaller than the width of the line.
http://content.screencast.com/media/5c4dc1dd-9916-4735-bbfc-9b1380b3d8fc_ea6865e8-641f-4c40-ab96-6048f869b6e8_static_0_0_00000023.png

In zoom mode it's also possible to reduce the width of one of the smallest lines by covering it partly with the background color.
http://content.screencast.com/media/f17a779d-ce81-4d6f-b6d5-d15b7d0a4dff_ea6865e8-641f-4c40-ab96-6048f869b6e8_static_0_0_00000024.png


If I back out of the zoom mode, the lines look equal.
http://content.screencast.com/media/0a0d2168-e32c-4c08-b32f-86de3ba690f0_ea6865e8-641f-4c40-ab96-6048f869b6e8_static_0_0_00000025.png
Is that a bug?

Last edited by zwylle (02 May, 2008 1:39 am)


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#4 02 May, 2008 6:51 am

Re: Will this ever change?

zwy, these are generally speaking just the nature of dealing with vector data at different zoom levels.  If we were dealing with bitmap data, the pixels you color will always be represented exactly the same at different magnification levels. Since vector data is re-drawn at different zoom levels  (in this case by the Flash player) then each time you zoom, the Flash player re-draws the lines to it's closest approximation.

When you're zoomed - between two lines you might have 4 actual pixels on your screen so when you click, flash might start rendering a line at the point you clicked and draw the line at that exact point (which might really be an x position of 10.4 pixels at an unzoomed level). Since when you zoom back to 100% view, Flash can't render a line at .4 of a pixel so it will re-render it most likely at the rounded value of 10.

As an example...
Here is an image drawn in photoshop that might represent your 3 line drawing with a white line over half of the black line to make it look thinner...
Imagine this is a zoomed in view of the drawing tool with the thin line being the line with a white line right next to it.
http://www.ratemydrawings.com/_misc_/testpixel.gif

If you open this image in photoshop, then start zooming out to a 66.7% and 50% view you will notice how it renders differently as shown below.
http://www.ratemydrawings.com/_misc_/testpixel2.gif
http://www.ratemydrawings.com/_misc_/testpixel3.gif


This is my best guess at what is happening and perhaps not a good explanation, but at the end of it all, our drawing tool tells Flash to draw a line 1 pixel wide - however it's rendered at different zoom levels is out of our control.


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