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#1 11 Apr, 2017 9:13 pm

FAIRER AND CHEAT-PROOF AWARDS

I made a similar post a few days ago, which mysteriously disappeared, so here goes again! roll
With such little activity these days, it is easy for a shameless artist to win daily awards by multiple commenting their own drawings and faving with duplicate accounts from the same IP address. They also gain unfairly high positions in top drawing and top artist ranking due to these same unscrupulous practices.
If an artist's own comments didn't count, and faving was limited to once per IP address, then I am sure it woud reflect a fairer and more honest view of the best drawings.
I know most people here draw for sheer joy, but it makes me so angry to watch the system being exploited. mad

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#2 12 Apr, 2017 1:19 pm

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before deleting this , read it and take some action , please :

fakes random accounts  used to fav/com  seconds after streetlevel drawings were saved, same ip  :
 
http://www.ratemydrawings.com/user/Miracles/

http://www.ratemydrawings.com/user/ORIGINAL1/

http://www.ratemydrawings.com/user/Dealcloser21/

http://www.ratemydrawings.com/user/Nordasota/

http://www.ratemydrawings.com/user/RMD%20MEMBER/ - the award giver when she can t steal the daily ones.


http://www.ratemydrawings.com/user/pdecorsi/ ( she already forgot about this one , interesting to see if it s coming back now that i m posting the link)


http://www.ratemydrawings.com/user/Dali/ ( -same case )

http://www.ratemydrawings.com/user/mb1b/ ( and another one )

http://www.ratemydrawings.com/user/PleaseRateMe/

http://www.ratemydrawings.com/user/yourhonor/

http://www.ratemydrawings.com/user/Yourthebest/

STREETLEVEL  Aug 04, 2014  Reply
9 faves 21 comments and all the awards went to a draw with less... Why is that? Sad sad day at RMD. Favoritism means more here than loyalty and true effort for original work instead of internet copies or photoshop draws. So Sad!

STREETLEVEL replied:  Jul 05, 2014  Reply
Solaris got an award for July 4th but is still posted on Todays top draws. Go figure. Same thing happened yesterday with Luanne's draw . Totally skipping draws from the correct day. PS I also have more favs than Solaris...



Kujowolf1 replied:  Jul 05, 2014  Reply
They've cheated you out of so many awards Nj. Sorry they did this one too. Its a great draw! I favorited it! Love your work! I remember when you started. You have come so far im surprised you dont have a most improved award!

TREETLEVEL replied:  Jul 05, 2014  Reply
They gave the awards to a drawing posted on July 3rd instead of mine on the 4th. Hows that for cheating? No offense to Luanne but she posted her draw July 3rd not the 4th. I have asked RMD WHY in the forum. I still have more favs than she does?

( i bet that Luanne felt really "good" after reading this , just terrible to ruin something she probably deserve to won not by making  fake accounts fave+ comm and demand awards like they are made just for her)

TREETLEVEL replied:  Aug 10, 2014  Reply
This draw was #1 all day and night and they gave the awards to a draw done on 8/8 that still has less favs and comments. I guess I am not wanted here and there is no honesty among thieves. Improvement is ignored and favoritism is the norm. SAD!

TREETLEVEL replied:  Aug 10, 2014  Reply
Thank you I appreciate your comment. Too bad it was cheated out of its awards. I guess its not that good after all and my time was wasted drawing it. RMD doesnt care about me or what I do.

yourhonor  Apr 18, 2016  Reply
The more I see your work the more I like what you have to say! I love the fact that you are original and do not repost or copy others or use photoshop to enhance your work. Beautiful. Fav and collect and Like! 
- ( no bullying others at all ..)


yourhonor  Apr 15, 2016  Reply
Thank you for capturing the simple elegant beauty of a rose. Great technique with the light showing through! It's refreshing to see someone on here who does not use photoshop or repost old drawings to drive their ratings up. Thank you!   
( no bullying others again ..and wow this "friend " is so obsessed about "others" when they not even draw ., what an existence , just bullying and praising the one and only nj .interesting )


Yourthebest  Jan 06, 2017  Reply
You continue to show incredible skill and maturity as an artist. Your work is so far above the others on this site who have no real original thinking. Thank you Nj it's always a joy to see your work!
( ok let s see , you may think is the first one , but look , is not the honor one is best one ...saying just the same and being fixed on how terrible is everyone else than her ..no bullying , mods? is this OK for you ?? )

yourhonor  Apr 03, 2016  Reply
This is incredibly beautiful like all the rest of your work. You have a wonderful eye for color and texture. Your work is so much more advanced than others on this site. Thank you NJ! Your work is a joy to see!
( the first your one appears and gives the same comment ,  i really hope that no one will dare to tell me this is a comment between friends and is not what streetlevel really thinks about you while leaving comments ending in "my friend"


RMD MEMBER  Aug 21, 2015  Reply
Agree this is really pretty and so realistic! Looks like the place I was last night . Fav
STREETLEVEL replied:  Aug 21, 2015  Reply
Where were you? Thank you for the kind words!  (  . strange question to ask someone from the same ip )


for the moderator who had the best intentions but did not  checked if a person should be featured or not : i hope you know you made a mistake , you do encourage a multiple personality bully !  i m not stupid and i m not blind , i liked her drawings and i let her know it until i saw the first fake accounts appearing , i did not said anything cause i thought is your job to do something , but now this person actually ask you to not let anyone who don t draw for 90 days to take ranks back ( not even knowing they are not lost ) anyway this is annoying , how much cheating can be done . Do you need to wait to "brother" yourmajesty to emerge from the same ip and bully the rest of the artist a little bit ? yourroyalawesomest ?
I do not care in any way  if you have a problem with me for saying this , i have no reason to stay in such a place if you continue to not take any action against this person ,  and more ,to delete our comments that are simply trying to fix RMD , nobody has anything personal with anyone , is simply do things right or go home type of situation smile
you have to make a choice RMD , there are many people that are not comfortable with being judged if they take an award , if they advance in ranks , they (we ) don t need any of this , is simply passion for drawing and i used to read those comments about how we stole her awards and feel like never drawing again just to not be in her way or another person who really cares about that .  great drawing mood .. right ? ..
so you understand why we are trying to fix this or find other places that are competitive just about the quality of drawings , if they are at all .

and ofc , the double, triple , actually 90% personal comments given by one person .. i think starfighter said it way  better than me  .


have a great day ..

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#3 14 Apr, 2017 1:55 pm

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Hello. My first comment on the latest thread was removed too .
I'd like to say i m inspired by your courage to speak up when no one else does .
My two cents on this is that we all have friends and family but i don't see anyone else using them like that ,i hope someone will read both of your opinions and save RMD  ,sadly ,now looks like it's abandoned.

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#4 14 Apr, 2017 11:02 pm

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Thank you both for your support and sharing your thoughts smile
I know it causes anxiety to speak out, but it is a worse feeling to let unfair behaviour go unchallenged
I agree that even if it is family and friends using the empty accounts, it is a questionable practise. My mum would have given me five hearts for a crayon drawing when i was 4 years old! So the comments and faves are meaningless, especially when they are so partisan and support no other artists.
If RMD has been abandoned, then it is up to us to conduct ourselves with fairness and with dignity


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#5 16 Apr, 2017 8:06 am

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for me is clear when someone simply make the choice to leave things how they are cause is ..simple. no care about what is fair or what is not .
the mods are here and they think that now is their job to delete stuff on draw chats and that s all , no banning the cheaters or anything.
and more , the fact that we are ignored is very disrespectful , but choices are made , i rather 100% to draw online cause i don t have the space , and i really have technical problems with stuff but i guess is the time to push myself and invest in some upgrades that will allow me to create in photoshop or something and go on deviant , a site that i really dislike for having the paid side so more much advantageous. but i guess is fair in this kind of world to get more if you have money then if you put passion in it.
so have fun here , good luck at pretending that people will shut up for long , there is not such a thing as people who are real that don t have a phone , and don t have their own internet with their own ip , if you believe streetlevel s bully side is not a bad thing great , but i won t let my comments be a cheap trade tool , i actually struggle to make them a little bit understandable smile) so i do care about each drawing and i m not a fake person who act nice just to use people  , so if your choice is fake and easy over make an effort and make things right , good luck rmd smile !
bye

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#6 16 Apr, 2017 4:03 pm

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This travesty will become a tragedy if talented, inspiring, encouraging artists like Vis_in_vis are driven away from this site by the conceit of another sad

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#7 20 May, 2017 8:19 am

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A very bad choice and RMD is dead ! .. i do not support cheaters either , and looking at the things here , most of users are leaving .
Used to love RMD too !

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#8 21 May, 2017 2:49 am

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holy craaaap didn't know this was even a thing. I feel like I can't really add anything, and if said person reads this;
It's a little ironic that you said other people are "stealing" awards and yet  you yourself create multiple accounts to "boost" your awards. It doesn't even matter. When you're so focused on stuff like that I can't imagine you can enjoy your craft very much. Unfortunately when I first joined RMD when I was little I was super caught up in "ratings, comments, etc" and it made me discouraged and there was no spark in drawing, no room for improvement, but most importantly; no fun!
I truly appreciate your comments on my pictures and your drawings are nice, but having that poor disposition towards a community and art itself can only tear a community apart. Most importantly, I don't want anyone to leave over something so trivial, it would be a travesty. And like starfighter said newcomers and senior members will only be driven away!

tbh I did always kinda think that the "most commented/rated etc awards" could easily be abused unfortunately.

Last edited by art_attack (21 May, 2017 2:49 am)


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#9 22 May, 2017 8:08 am

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cant draw here anymore none of the tools don't work for me now. mick needs to come back to update. sad

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#10 22 May, 2017 12:52 pm

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madmomentsgo wrote:

cant draw here anymore none of the tools don't work for me now. mick needs to come back to update. sad

Tools don't work for anybody else,but Mick keeps a complete and inappropriate (sorry)  silence about this

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#11 23 May, 2017 5:47 pm

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vis_in_vis wrote:

for me is clear when someone simply make the choice to leave things how they are cause is ..simple. no care about what is fair or what is not .
the mods are here and they think that now is their job to delete stuff on draw chats and that s all , no banning the cheaters or anything.
and more , the fact that we are ignored is very disrespectful , but choices are made , i rather 100% to draw online cause i don t have the space , and i really have technical problems with stuff but i guess is the time to push myself and invest in some upgrades that will allow me to create in photoshop or something and go on deviant , a site that i really dislike for having the paid side so more much advantageous. but i guess is fair in this kind of world to get more if you have money then if you put passion in it.
so have fun here , good luck at pretending that people will shut up for long , there is not such a thing as people who are real that don t have a phone , and don t have their own internet with their own ip , if you believe streetlevel s bully side is not a bad thing great , but i won t let my comments be a cheap trade tool , i actually struggle to make them a little bit understandable smile) so i do care about each drawing and i m not a fake person who act nice just to use people  , so if your choice is fake and easy over make an effort and make things right , good luck rmd smile !
bye

Well -your comments on this page  made me write here because drawing tools are not working and ,in my free time  I....write  smile)) In my humble opinion this is a site for amusement ,it is not a site for growing as an artist.You should enjoy it for the pleasure of using a nice  ,free drawing program .I was happy to draw here ,for the same reasons as yours-the java program and the flash tools-But as we know, all the good things must have an end . The end has come for this ,I think. If it is not the end -I will be very pleased to continue drawing from time to time.Your reasons for leaving this site might be  justified for you .I am sure the ones who cannot draw like  you are happy to see you leaving  ,don't you agree?
What is more important is that you can draw in your original and fantastic way and this is something that cannot be stealed   ,right? The comments on your drawings express what is so obvious -the admiration of the people who draw here for your art . And comments on your profile are written by the best artists here.
  Dupa cum vezi ,iti scriu si in limba romana,am avut divergente copilaresti  pe acest motiv ,Eu sper ca site-ul sa isi revina si tu sa te intorci sa iti admiram desenele  si sa dai o lectie si celor care merita-cred ca tot ce ai scris acolo ,mai sus ,e cat se poate de adevarat -dar asta e  o copilarie din partea celor care o practica  si atat ! Am remarcat si eu mai demult ca e cat se poate de ciudat ce se intampla ,apoi ,accidental,am vazut ce ai scris tu.Deci ,o copilarie de prost gust si atat !De accord ca poate deranja,poate enerva atata tupeu dar pana la urma,cum am zis,nu merita oboseala !

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#12 24 May, 2017 7:37 am

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hey smile i'd like to quote all your feedback and say thank you first smile i never wanted to ever get back if things are not changed but i don t want to ignore so many amazing people . Thanks for the comments and messages here and on deviant and fb .
I agree with you andre_cellea this is a site for amusement and this is what i need , i m not an artist , i draw just for fun , not good  but i want to learn , just for me.and still in my way . so sorry for our little problem in the past , i was simply ..disgusted ( quite a big word i know )) by older romanian people(mods) that used to tell me every day on a drawing site you know too ,that anyone who tries to change things  is simply stupid , so i reacted very aggressive when you just tried to give a really good advice smile
When i left there i was really happy to  rediscover RMD which is all i wanted . a place where i can draw online with same tools like others , very chill place , no kids insulting anyone who draws "worse" than them , no older artist who ll tell you you are an idiot if you have ideas ( mod quote again smile) , maybe i had bad experiences but they made me appreciate RMD even more for being so ..normal in the good way smile
i still don t want to leave and is not about giving anyone satisfaction or not ,
but i can t stand to see someone cheating in a way that makes RMD empty , maybe most people won t talk , but they are leaving and older artist are not encouraged in any way to come back

the link for the facebook group is placed wrong , i wish mick would read this and just make an adjustment .
and while java is still hard to use with RMD , it s still possible to fix it especially in firefox , but drawings are impossible to load in canvas and java tool , and this is a RMD bug , nothing to do with anything external , same with flash draw .
those are technical problems that should be fixed first , and then simply ban accounts that are used for bullying and for cheating , i don t think is too much to ask for
smile

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#13 24 May, 2017 8:52 am

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Yes  ,vis_in_vis, people should play honest ! I mean  they should draw and enjoy this place for the benefits it offers to all of us:  very good drawing program (when it works !...smile)) ),a diversity of people coming from all over the world ,the chance we all have to spent some extra free time in a very pleasant way - But ,as you  wrote-Mick should do something in fixing the site problems and I think that some childish behavior cannot be stoped,if the mods or the admin don't do something against these users ,like block them  or ban them .I thought Mick left this site for good but he is back  .What we should understand is that without a competition ,this site or any other drawing site wouldn't be very attractive  for many talented people.The ennoying bugs are everywhere  ,very hard to eliminate them all.
I truly hope Mick will resolve the technical problems. !   And some ot those bugs...big_smile

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#14 24 May, 2017 10:14 am

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completely agree. i m all for competition and for getting better ( only for those who want to get better ) . If they are ranks they should be used for checking those who are talented and they get there in a fair way . I checked your gallery and everyone s gallery and i leaned more that you can imagine from all your drawings , but what i ve learned is that anything is possible , i can be that good to if i practice , practice is really the only way , i know that many people get me wrong when i say .."just do what you want and be yourself" ...i m against that type of comment : "it s blurry" . for example.. well i love blurry and for me it s the most interesting thing to see how effects can appear by playing with tools , not by knowing what i want to draw and doing it like an robot . I m trying to say that not everyone has the same purpose when they draw , some will really draw for  fun while others to show off , or whatever , just i m against judging . I can now give some critical feedback since i learned a little bit of drawing theory , but again ..i d give this type of comment only for someone asking for it .
Ranks will be always not the most correct thing cause humans are ..humans ..so social relationships will have a big part  , people who are more social will have more "friends" and they will tend to have more feedback based on this too , not only drawing value(which is a subjective thing too) , but the same people will have negative feedback and "haters" just cause they are "popular" . so this is a balanced thing , but bashing those people , writing little hateful comments about awards being given based on popularity and then inventing some fake "friends" and stealing those awards is incredible wrong smile
i really think mick should ban anyone who does that , not just cause is wrong but it sets a bad example , people may tend to be really competitive and forget about drawing , having in the top artist someone who simply exploit a system will make more advanced artist to skip joining the site from the start , cause they want real competition and they want to learn from the best ..
even on an amusement site ..if they are ranks they should be as correct as they can get ..
and the key word is balance again smile nobody should take ranks and awards too seriously cause they are not a reflection of value on a more social site like this , but they are a nice addition that should meant something at least a little bit like an encouragement if not something else .
so if Mick reads this should maybe take some time and repair the technical stuff ,, bugs and all ( by the way on android especially is really hard to log cause will be sent to facebook , while on laptops or desktops is easy to ignore the link ) and then maybe a competition could bring back many people and attract some new ones ..
smile

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#15 24 May, 2017 6:07 pm

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vis_in_vis wrote:

I totally agree!. Everything you have written here is what (in some moment) I was thinking myself,but I just didn't take these things very serious or personal...I don't know  .I probably just like to draw,I am an amateur ,I haven't studied anything about drawing or painting,I  have some native talent and  I  draw using refr. pics  -till one day ,when I will decide to use a real canvas.You have  this native talent ,too .And  you are very creative .Finally-I agree with you ,with the idea of a honest competition,as honest as it can be because ,as you wrote -we are all human ! Not a huge number of  drawings or a lot of real or fictive friends can help an artist to become a REAL top artist.The system used here  is good enough,what is wrong is  what people are able to do  or ... not do  .( "Such a beautiful planet,the bad thing is that people are living in it '').
Finally-I wish this site could be functional again.Everybody is asking   Mick to do something,although I think he is trying already.

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#16 18 Jun, 2017 5:21 pm

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Vis empty your mail box, it says its too full to receive new messages.


If A picture paints a 1000 words then why speak lol

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#17 19 Jun, 2017 12:30 pm

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Wow,   Unbelievable!    But so obviously true! 

So sorry this site is not working properly anymore.


I exist therefore I must endure.
Because I endure I endeavor to persevere.

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#18 19 Jun, 2017 2:46 pm

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Maj ! you seam to be  a very rare specie arround here (since RMD is an empty place now-almost )...haha ...very happy to read you  and to agree with you !... big_smiletongue

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